Thema: "Vote" for Donnie Darko ;-)

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103. 8.2 Notorious (1946) 15,124
104. 8.2 Donnie Darko (2001) 90,082
105. 8.2 Fargo (1996) 86,180
106. 8.2 Ran (1985) 17,399

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106. 8.2 Once Upon a Time in America (1984) 34,449
107. 8.2 Fargo (1996) 93,780
108. 8.2 The Great Dictator (1940) 17,746
109. 8.2 Donnie Darko (2001) 103,769
110. 8.2 Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) 125,386

Stand: 12.05.2007, 12:47

22 February 2007, Thursday

The problem with Mike Yanagita. Is there one? I have to admit, first off, that I had not fully comprehended the dimension Alex points out. However, is the very fact that I didn't notice it important? Richard Kelly (the director of Donnie Darko) spoke on Radio 4 about Fargo and a full transcript of the interview is available here. He says "So the Mike Yanagita scene is actually really, really important on a character level. On a plot level, it’s superfluous and it’s just the Coen Bros. just being weird or self-indulgent maybe". In a way then, Alex and I agree. He was thinking of character, I of plot. But I remember in this viewing of the film thinking 'why is Marge going back to see Jerry?'. I couldn't figure out why. Now it makes sense. But is this sense far to formulaic? Is it overly contrived? My very inability to figure it out points to that conclusion, for me. It's not obvious to the audience. It alienates them. The scene with Mike seems strange and out of place. When people criticise my writing for certain things I sometimes say 'well I meant to do that', and they reply 'it doesn't matter if you meant to do it or not, it's bad'. Is this the case here? I think so. I think it is a very clever moment. Marge realises she can't trust people and so goes back to Jerry. But that is an internal reaction and we are given no indication of it. I don't think it would've taken much to give us some help here. This could've been done much better, I think.

Also, Alex asked a question which he didn't answer: 'But will the changes in her appreciation of others affect her much more over the course of her life even though everything seems the same at the end?'. I think the answer is no. I think this is the importance of the line about stamps that I mentioned. She tidies things up, but never really realises anything herself.

Posted by Nick Ollivère at 01:00 3 comments

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Richard Kelly (of Donnie Darko) fame said that you could only truly understand Fargo once you understood the role of Mike Yanagita. In fact he added the character of the Chinese girl in earmuffs as a nod to this Coen brothers character.
I think that Marge is really secure in her belief. I don't think there are a lot of crimes in Fargo and when there are crimes they are of the low level traffic office types of situations. Things that frankly happen because people are probably drunk. Bar brawls, speeding etc.

When she speaks to Mike she feels sad for Mike when he speaks of his wife's death. When she speaks to her friend and realises that he's lied to her she doesn't go back to Mike, the very next scene she goes to confront Jerry. Despite being a police officer she needs to be reminded that sometimes people lie. That sometimes when people are so invested in the lie you might not be able to tell immediately. So she goes back to check if Jerry was telling the truth when he said that there were no cars missing.

It's difficult because the people from Minnesota really do underplay everything, very little emotion is revealed. And so she can't really have a denouement in a showy tearful way. But it's fair to say that this has changed the way she feels about trusting people.

It is the balance between the way that this big series of murders, going on but what's important? Her life is carrying on and she's going to have a baby. But will the changes in her appreciation of others affect her much more over the course of her life even though everything seems the same at the end?

I think in part it is probably for the Coens a film which talks about how where they grew up even when really big things seem like they are happening nothing ever really changes.

"And for what? For a little bit of money. There's more to life than a little money, you know. Don't you know that? And here ya are, and it's a beautiful day. Well, I just don't understand it."

23 February 2007 15:12:00 GMT
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